that's part of obama care. you know that, right? >> the point is he's not going to get their dollars and cents. >> that's correct. >> so this whole little framework that he's made, this house of cards, isn't going to stand up, bob. that's the problem. where's the money coming from? >> bring your ideas down. and i say yes, sir, brothers. bring your ideas down. come to the table. bring your things -- eric, you come on down here and give us your ideas. kimberly, you come, too. >> here's a good one. >> across state lines. tax reform and tort reform. >> make it attractive. come on. >> health savings accounts. which are tax-free dollars, so if you decide you want to go to a chiropractor and your health insurance doesn't cover that, your money can go to pay for that rather than the government. >> that's a funny thing. you're right. a free market idea is incredibly simple. it works in every other industry, but it's overcomplicated by thousands of pages of bureaucratic nonsense that keeps people in their professions. >> rather than try and s